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  • m348e912 1 hour ago
    Archive.is doesn't seem to be working. Here is the gist of the article:

    Apple sued OpenAI and one of its top executives Friday alleging the AI company stole trade secrets as part of its effort to develop competing devices.

    The civil suit filed in the Northern District of California accuses OpenAI’s chief hardware officer, Tang Tan, and Chang Liu, a member of its technical staff, of taking Apple’s confidential information through various methods. Both are former Apple employees who went to work for OpenAI.

  • exabrial 23 minutes ago
    They didn't still the property, that would be illegal. They trained a model on it. That's totally ok.
  • impish9208 55 minutes ago
  • andrewinardeer 38 minutes ago
    This is going to be interesting.

    Only because both companies have access to billions and infinite lawyers.

    • grttw14 28 minutes ago
      Imagine comparing what apple has access to vs a deeply money losing firm
  • tiahura 42 minutes ago
    Copy of the Complaint.

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.47...

    9. In the months before he left Apple, Mr. Tan met with OpenAI or its collaborators and discussed meetings with a key Apple supplier. He began emailing himself information about Apple’s suppliers and internal summaries of the consumer electronics industry. And today, when interviewing Apple employees for jobs at OpenAI, Mr. Tan uses Apple’s confidential information to gain access to even more insider knowledge. He has used an Apple internal project codename to ask, “What’s the plan[?]” for an unannounced Apple product. He has directed job candidates still working for Apple to bring “Actual parts” from Apple to their interviews for “show and tell” sessions in which he and his team at OpenAI can elicit still more Apple confidential information. These directions to bring Apple’s parts to OpenAI job interviews surprised at least one of the candidates, who commented that he “didn’t even know we could take those from the office.”

    10. This is part of OpenAI’s strategy to extract Apple’s confidential information. OpenAI has been instructing Apple employees to bring “CAD/design artifacts” and “prototypes” to their interviews and to divulge details about their work such as “subsystem and component selection,” the “tools or methodologies you use for system integration, such as CAD software, simulation tools,” and “Vendor selection and communication/collaboration with vendors.”

    11. OpenAI also instructs new hires on how to avoid scrutiny when they leave Apple. For example, Mr. Tan warns them not to tell Apple that they have taken jobs at OpenAI, so they can stay at Apple as long as they can. After his own departure, Mr. Tan improperly retained or obtained an internal Apple managers’ document marked “Need to Know” that describes security procedures for employee departures. Messages left on Apple-issued work devices show that Mr. Tan and his OpenAI colleagues have been sharing this document with new hires before they give notice to Apple of their departures, previewing Apple’s security protocols. Unsurprisingly, Apple’s investigation has found a pattern by employees who depart for OpenAI of taking steps to evade the security processes intended to protect Apple’s confidential information.

  • joshstrange 51 minutes ago
  • nba456_ 43 minutes ago
    Reminds me of Apple suing Samsung. Why bother with the free market when you can just sue your competitors?